The Constitution of the United States on Federal Land Ownership
We the People, being free, have need to defend our freedom from time to time against those who would violate our rights as defined by our Creator. It is an arduous task to constantly be on guard in the protection of our life, our family, and our means of providing a living. Therefore, “We the People” as neighbors, create government and laws to protect our lives, liberties, properties, and our pursuant of happiness, from those who would take them away.
The Constitution of the United States, created by “We the People” established a government for the protection of individuals. Government in and of itself has no power or authority. Our federal government is created and receives its authority from the people as outlined in Constitution of the United States. The Constitution specifies how and what the federal government is and what powers those that hold office have. We have given the federal government specific duties to perform and granted it the power to fulfill only those duties and nothing else.
We the People of the United States of America have stated in article VI of the U.S. Constitution that, “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof … shall be the supreme Law of the Land ...” This ensures that no other document or law created can supersede the Constitution. No case law, no code, no regulation, no foreign law, no act of congress … nothing can supersede the Constitution when it comes to governing the people. It must be pursuing the purpose and intent of the original Constitution or it is not lawful.
The Ninth and Tenth Amendment to the Constitution further restricts and clarifies that the central government (federal) we have created is our servant, and not our master. That it does not have authority to make or take any authority or power that the people did not specifically give.
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
These two amendments simply clarify that the federal government does not have unlimited power, that the powers have been granted from the People, and that those powers are limited to performing specific functions.
So now the question can be asked. Where in the Constitution have we given Congress, (i.e. the Federal Government) the right to control or administer land, and under what conditions may they do it?
Let us go to article IV sec. 3 of the Constitution which states: The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States ... This section of the Constitution grants Congress the power to make needful rules and regulations while the land is still a Territory (capital T) and grants Congress the power to dispose of the land. It does not grant unto congress the power to retain the land, only to dispose of it. This means that the federal government does not and never will OWN the land, which is a Territory. They can make the rules while it is a Territory, but they have the obligation, duty and authority to dispose of it. In other words, the people OWN the land and have charged the Federal government to be administrators until it can be disposed of.
So how does Congress dispose of the land? It can be done in several ways: they can sell it, they can give it away (such as they did with the Homestead act), but however, the ultimate tool of disposal is Statehood. By accepting a State into the Union, Congress is disposing (relinquishing rights) of the land to the people of that particular State. At the moment of Statehood, no longer does Congress have the constituted authority to administrate the land or resources within the borders of that State.
So, what is a State?
The definition of a State is the same as that of a Nation. The two terms are synonymous. Evidence of this is the signing of the Treaty of Paris, named after the city where it was signed. This is the official treaty that ended the Revolutionary war. The treaty was signed by 14 states. But wait, there were only 13 original colonies! So, who was the 14th State that signed the treaty? The answer is, Great Britain! This is significant. Before the treaty the separate areas of land in America were known as Colonies. These Colonies were under the control of Great Britain and the people subjects of the king. They were not States.
By winning the Revolutionary War, the American people won their independence from the crown. They became equals to Great Britain as thirteen Nations, separate and independent, equal in every respect. Each Nation signed the Treaty of Paris. Great Britain, the fourteenth State, also signed. The most powerful Nation in the world at that time, Great Britain, considered the thirteen States as equals in every respect.
The people of the thirteen States always intended to be united in some sort of a Union. Under the Articles of Confederation, they attempted this Union and perfected it later by organizing a central government (federal) to take care of specific maters. The Constitution of the United States outlines what authorization the Unified States granted to this central government. The thing to remember is that each independent State had the choice to join the Union or not, they were independent and separate Nations that chose to enter into a Union with each other.
Territories
In 1789, the thirteen States were united under the newly signed Constitution. The original thirteen States had land that extended west of the Allegany Mountains, mostly unsettled. The States voluntarily and collectively decided to allow the central government (federal) to administer these lands. They called them Territories. The plan was for the federal government to administrate the Territories until they could become States. When a Territory is populated to the point that it could stand on its own, jurisdiction would be turned over to the people of that Territory and it would become an Independent State and part of the Union.
As the population grew due to westward expansion, Territorial lands were created into States. The process to become a State is established on the "Equal footing Doctrine" where all future States would be treated sovereign and equal. New States entering the Union would enter on an equal footing with the original thirteen States. According to Article IV, Section IV of the U.S. Constitution, all new States would be equal to the other States, in every regard. There is no question that the people in the original thirteen States owned the land within the State borders. There is no question that the central, or federal government, had no right to any land within the several States. It is absurd to think that a newly created State, equal to the original thirteen, must give up their lands to the central government.
So is there any place in the Constitution of the United States that allows Congress to administrate land inside a State?
Article IV, Sec. 3 of the US Constitution records that, "The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; ..."
So what is this "other property"? Where is it found in the Constitution? The answer is found in Article 1, Sec. 8, Clause 17. This is the only other place in the Constitution that gives power to Congress regarding administration or control of land.
Article I, Sec. 8, Clause 17 states, The Congress shall have power: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings.
Through this section of the Constitution We the People granted unto congress an area of land 10 miles x 10 miles, so 100 square miles for the purpose of being the seat of government. We know this area as Washington DC. This land had to be carved out of existing States. Notice that it was not taken by force but “…as may by Cession of particular States ... become the Seat of Government..." The States from which it came voluntarily ceded the land to Congress; they did this only for the purpose of it becoming the seat of government, and no other purpose.
We also give Congress the opportunity to use land within a State. It is not done by force, but must be done with the "Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the same shall be" (land within a State includes all the land within borders of the State, public or private. Congress cannot purchase private land without the consent of the State Legislator). This purchased land cannot be used for any purpose that Congress whishes. We only authorize Congress to use the land for five purposes, "for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings." Four of the five are strait forward uses, military uses and shipping. Other needful building’s is a bit open-ended but is restricted to a building and not of vast lands.
So consider these questions:
If the State does not own the land, then why would Congress have to get permission from the State to purchase it?
If the State does not own the land how could the States sell it?
When our founders created the Constitution they were trying to protect the People’s rights to the ownership and control of the land and resources. They just fought a hard and bloody war to ensure these rights. They were not about to create another monster, tyrannical government like the one they just freed them selves from. It was their original intent to create a small general government with power enough to defend against outside enemies and create peace within. They never intended government to own mass amounts of land. The United States of America is a Union of States. Union by definition is many or at least more than one who have come together for a specific purpose. The United States is not one nation, but many, 50 Nations that have United for specific purposes as constituted.
We the People have never granted to congress the right to administrate land inside States except for the limited purposes outlined in Article 1, Sec. 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution. All the land that the federal government now claims, i.e., BLM, Forest Service, Monuments, Recreation areas, Wilderness, Reclamation areas, Wildlife refuges, Areas of Critical Environmental Concern (ACEC), National parks, etc., are all unconstitutional! None of them fit within the boundaries of the Constitution. It is simple; the land belongs to the People!
Additionally, We the People have never given Congress the power or authority to control our resources; water, lumber, minerals, petroleum, forage, or wildlife of any kind. These all fall under the 10th Amendment and are reserved to the State, or to the People. Any act of Congress stating otherwise, is not in pursuance of the Constitution.
We, the Bundy family urge each government body to uphold the Constitution of the United States, uphold its original intent and disregard unconstitutional entities, acts, codes, etc., that circumvent the freedom of the individual. A State is not a Territory and is not subject to Territorial laws once it becomes a State. The Constitution is very clear on this matter.
We strongly encourage each State to act like a State and stop being subjugated and controlled like a Territory. As State leaders, it is time to start doing what the People expect of you, and that is to protect their lives, protect their liberty, protect their property, and allow the pursuit of happiness. In other words, protect their God given rights.
It is time to stop allowing the federal government to violate these sacred liberties. We the People desperately need your protection. If you will not fulfill your constitutional duties the people are exposed to suffer oppression, and the power of the State reverting to an all-powerful central government becomes a reality, more than it already is. If you, as leaders of a sovereign State will not protect the people’s rights, then We the People will have to do it ourselves and replace you with others who will stand for our future.
Sincerely,
Ryan Bundy
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I would say that Ryan Bundy is 100% correct if he was referring to the Constitution 'for' the united States of America, however, that instrument was shelved after the Civil War and replaced, without notice being given, by the Constitution 'of' the United States. A little slight of the hand that changed the scenario from control by the people to control by the oligarchs.
Our problem with land is, that when we register it with Govco today, we grant legal title to Govco and retain mere equitable title, giving us time, possession and use--as long as we follow all their rules such as pay the taxes [which is a rental fee], obtain permits for any changes to their land, obey all ordinances, etc.
That's primarily how they took control of the people by the de-facto regime requiring registration of all births. They had the State Registrars Office sign the Birth Certificates which created an all caps named estate similar to one's Christian appellation. The office of the registrar is the office of probate that administers the estates of the deceased. Since Govco is a legal fiction, never to reach parity with the real [the living man or woman], it had to create legal fiction [SMEs] entities as go betweens so we can interact with Govco and its commercial system and Govco can harvest our energy by charging the SME that we unknowingly think is us.
When you register your land, the county places ownership in the all caps name of the Straw Man Estate and operate under the presumption that you, the living man, have agreed to be the surety for their legal fiction creation, the new owner of the land. They will cite various things you've done, such as you placed your signature on a deed, for example, that shows that you've agreed to be the holder of all liability while receiving none of the benefits for signing for another. You are viewed as an accommodation party. They would never mention that your signature was un-qualified as that would give away the game.
But you say that that is fraud and it is. In fact, it is your best defense when needed because fraud vitiates all that it touches and when they fail to reveal all the hidden facts pertaining to registration, it is known as fraud in the inducement. Not only can they not lie to you [although they frequently do], they cannot leave out pertinent details of the transaction that operate to your detriment.
The problem with the Constitution was they created a debtor nation as it says in Article six ;
All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any state to the Contrary notwithstanding.
So The Continental Congress forced it's debt on the people. The word Constitution comes from the word constitutor Black's Law In the civil law. One who, by a simple agreement, becomes responsible for the payment of another's debt.
Not saying that The Continental Congress didn't put this in the constitution to protect the people but the main thing they wanted was to get out from under the debt they owed to the Crown which by the way has never been payed back to this day.
The bad thing is, they are still doing this to the people. We The People are in the Pawn Shop the United States Corporation has pledged the people and their labor to the foreign bankers against the debt for the loans they get from the FED. They have enslaved the entire nation, this is what the people should be fighting about. Children born into slavery and never had a say. If you are a citizen of the United States corporation you have no rights you are a slave, this is the problem, this is where the stand needs to begin, this is the real problem. They need We The People to remain dumb; time to wake up.
I think your statement says a lot that the sheeple have not grasped as yet: If you are a citizen of the United States corporation you have no rights you are a slave, this is the problem, this is where the stand needs to begin, this is the real problem. They need We The People to remain dumb; time to wake up.
The issue is, "are you a citizen of the United States?. Just how can a living man be a citizen of a fictional entity? He can't unless he claims through ignorance, to be one.
The original government did not make the people co-sureties on the first bankruptcy through the Constitution for the united States of America. The Federal government stood alone as the debtor on the debt owed the International bankers for funding the Revolutionary War. That BR ran for 70 years and all funds in excess of the needs of the government to maintain its offices were paid to the Banksters, the Rothschild/Vatican mafia.
The first BR commenced in 1791, 15 years after the war when the government could not repay the debt. Add 70 to 1791 and you get 1861, the commencement of the Civil War that was instigated, not to get rid of slavery, but by imposing huge tariffs on the South's production of cotton.
The mafia knew the crushing tariffs would not be tolerated by the South and that a war would ensue. They again financed both sides of the war with the most support going to the side that promised the most benefits to the mafia after it ended. That is the mafia's standard mode of operation for hundreds of years. Obviously, the North promised the most as it was dominated by agents of the Rothschild/Vatican mafia.
One of the considerations for allowing the North to win was implementing the Reconstruction Acts where the South was not rebuilt to compensate for the destruction it endured as we were taught, but to reconstruct all State governments as Federal sub-corps so the mafia now had, not only the Federal govt. on the hook for the next 70 year BR, but all the Federal sub-corps State governments as well.
The next big step of the mafia was to implement The Cestui Vie Act of 1666 [you can see how far back this treachery goes and who is behind it] requiring all births to be registered. Registration is the surrendering of legal title to the thing registered to the State.
The State then created the fictional all cap letter estate from the BC signed by the Office of the State Registrars office, the office of probate who administers the estates of the deceaseds. They attached these fictional SMEs to each of the living, creating a legal presumption that the living were dead or missing from beyond the sea.
To go with this, they came up with Corpus Juris Secundum, Section 16, page 892 as a Corp. version of the Cestui Que Vie Act of 1666. Now they had millions of unsuspecting people acting as sureties for the government's legal fiction SMEs to go along with the new Constitution 'of' the United States.
This is not quite as dire as one might imagine if you are aware of the trickery. Utilizing a qualified signature on anything and everything that comes from Govco or one of its corporate franchises rebuts any claims of suretyship. An un-qualified signature bespeaks of an accommodation party--one who signs for another, acting all liability without any of the benefits for so signing.
If the people were aware of this scam they would never use anything but a qualified signature and could disclaim any surety-ship for the SME. If everyone in America comprehended this fact, the mafia would have their gravy train upset and the people could continue with a great deal of new found freedom even when dealing with their entirely commercial system.
ahhh i like Bundy but he must also consider the Organic act of 1871 as well as the Northwest ordinance. We have 2 Untited states and they are controlled by Administrative law as article 3 courts are hardly used because they are controlled by a magistrate while article 4 courts are administrative law the trade between nation States.
No we have a clause that is unwritten and its name is God. In the declaration of independence it alone gives us a power from he most high. I was at Burns Oregon, I got to see my government at work. and even though the BLM as well as the FBI over stepped their boundary as far as Law is concerned, the raw nature of Government was seen through our eyes ,all we had to do was look.... Greed sponsors a Governments apitite. and in the malhure range is an estimated 17 trillion dollars worth of minerals , oil, uranium Gold and other minerals controlled by the BLM. Should it be? No but people have allowed it to happen . Now at this time we ask ourselves what can we do?
Any single man must judge for himself whether circumstances warrant obedience or resistance to the commands of the civil magistrate, Federal Mandate, or even Federal Supreme Court as to matters dealing with God. As this is a christian nation and as the new federal government is Socialist in nature, there becomes a break in the fabric... we are all qualified, entitled, and morally obliged to evaluate the conduct of our rulers. This political judgment, moreover, is not simply or primarily a right, but like self-preservation, a duty to God. As such it is a judgment that men cannot part with according to the God of Nature. It is the first and foremost of our inalienable rights without which we can preserve no other.
When do we the people say enough is enough?
Quiz,
I can't tell you how many times I've asked that very question. But I can tell you where I answered it. Enough is Enough!