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EASY way to prove government trickery
Submitted by juliusbragg on Wed, 11/18/2009 - 16:10
in Daily Paul Liberty Forum

Anyone can do this, and everyone should try this. the worse case is the letter gets returned for postage due. (FB and Wolfe especially)

Take an envelope, place a letter inside, put a 3 cent stamp on it, address it to someone "outside of the United States" which means any of the 50 states, and not in Washington D.C., any military base, any federal zone, NO ZIP CODES

Here is an example address

Bill Griffith
3521 Fort Street
Seattle, Washington
[zip exempt]

your return address should not contain a zip code either.

The last thing you need to do is write:

First Class Non Domestic
bk.12 Statutes At Large
Chapter 71 section 23
37th. Congress Session 111

If you use a zip code or 2 letter abbreviated state, IT WILL BE RETURNED...

I have tried this many times over the past months to trouble shoot it,
I purposefully used zip codes on some, and ALL were returned, I used 2 letter state abbreviations on some, and all were returned.

For larger packages the rate is 3 cents per 1/2 oz. in addition to the original 3 cents (i believe)

Send a letter to your friend today, THEN tell me this is not true.

WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT?

Because, this will prove to many nay-sayers:

1) that the zipcode "makes" your address a federal zone.

2) that the 2 letter abbreviation is seen as a "federal State"

3) That the post office is a corporation and is tricking the average American into using 42 cent stamps, when only a 3 cent stamp is required.

4) That all 50 states are "without the United States".

5) And that common knowledge of government is OFTEN misunderstood

6) that the "United States" can mean the "federal Government"

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This is very interesting, and while I'm tempted to at least try it, we need to consider that the USPS is already so upside down that it's getting bailed out to the tune of MILLIONS. So if we are ok with further burdening them, or the taxpayer with more bailouts, go right ahead, but I have to respectfully decline to try it myself. Thanks for the interesting information though.

Jonathan,

That's just stupid.

If you think this is not real, won't work or that the "Post Office" and the "United States Postal Service" are the same thing, then you need to 

Watch this Video

Has the 3 cent postage been attempted using a postcard?
Restated: Is envelope a necessary component to mail at three cents? Can a postcard be mailed at three cents?

Post cards are the same deal as long as they are addressed the same way.

I have used both 2 cent and 3 cent postage for at least 14 years and both have worked. Having heard of problems with 2 cent postage I just bought a bunch of 3 cent stamps.

I had a friend in Federal prison and he got all my mail. A couple of times my mail was returned marked "Insufficient postage". I just marked through it and wrote next to it "Non-Domestic Mail Rate-3 cents", dropped it back in the mail and it was always delivered.

As to the claim that use of a zip code will render the mail into the Federal jurisdiction, I agree, unless one puts it in brackets [28607-9998] where it legally is not part of the address but is there merely for informational purposes. I always, when using the zip code, include the suffix '9998' which is the zip extension for the 'Post Office' [not the US Postal Service] and such extension is 'without the U. S.'. The use of an address is a contractual issue. If you use a bare zip code you have contractually placed yourself in the fictional federal taxable commercial zone.

It is my understanding that only one party is required to follow these rules for 'non-domestic mail rates of 3 cents per 1/2 oz. but I usually do both sender and recipient using a simplified address [mailing location].

Example:

John Smith                                                                               Non-Domestic           [3 cent STAMP]                           c/o 122 West Main Street                                                         Mail Rate 3 cents                                                         Lansing, North Carolina [28607-9998]                                                                                                                         Non-Domestic, Without the U.S.                                                                                                                                                                                                              Larry Jones                                                                                                                                                                      c/o 466 Rose Circle                                                                                                                                                        Collins, Tennessee       

Use of zip code in brackets is optional and is not at all necessary. I've had postal employees tell me they can't take mail without a zip code on it. I lean over and quietly request they go back and speak with the postmaster regarding the zip code issue. I don't get nasty because they are not informed and I am not trying to embarrass them. When they come out they usually say something like 'well you learn something new every day', take the letter for mailing without anything further.

I'm not too worried about the financial status of the USPS. They, like all the rest of the entities posing as government, contracted to provide governmental services for the people. Unfortunately, the servicing we are getting is reminiscent of a bull servicing a cow.   

The reason it's either 2 or 3 cents is because the two cent stamp is for in town and you need three cents to mail a letter out of town. That's all, no mystery.

Hi! First thanks for your timely reply. Is it possible for you to write it out on a postcard or envelope, take a picture and email? richvara@gmail.com

Rich,

Here is the way I do it. It's short and sweet and simple.

John Q. Public

123 Anywhere Lane

Your City, Your State

usA Non-Domestic

Other  Guy's Name

456 His Street

Nowhere Town, Any State

usA Non-Domestic

That's it, nothing else. It has worked in town for two cents and out of town for three cents. The devil is in the details of the form, (capitols, no abbreviations, etc.), but the most important part is that you are addressing the whole thing as Non-Domestic mail. It cannot be auto-scanned for a number, so it has to be hand sorted right into the jurisdiction of the "Post Office" and out of the clutches of "The United States Postal Service" and their fancy codes.

Remember that word "code". You'll see it again and again if you read enough.

Not sure about the mailing labels, but I don't see a problem, as long as they are correctly printed.

Also is it necessary to hand print, may I print out mailing labels please?
And thanks,
Rich

I have no idea what the problem is. I type it out correctly and when I submit it it looks like scrambled eggs. I think Houston has a problem.

Send me your email address and I'll send you the example.

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