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  • The premise behind this post is bogus -- pure and simple.

    One loses whatever credibility he may have when he promotes spurious claims.

    If you had spoken to the TONA Research Committee ( http://www.amendment-13.org/ ) like I have, you would have learned that the committee lost the capability to update its web site nearly 10 years ago. The committee actually has more research than is found on the web site.

    Since that time, charlatans (I'm not referring to Jim Porter) have concocted the baseless argument that 'esquire' is a title of nobility and then conveniently ignore all the other conditional language in the proposed amendment.

    Nowhere on the TONA Research Committee site will you find this argument.

    Go ahead, you don't have to trust me.

    Put this in your favorite search engine.

        host:amendment-13.org +esquire

    The word 'esquire' is nowhere to be found on the entire TONA Research Committee site, except on the chronology page where the names of people who are found on documents are listed.

    Go ahead, look. Snap out of your delusion.

        James Madison Esq

    Yes, that James Madison, among others.

    And, as I said, the committee is not capable of updating the site to expose this fraudulent use of its work.

    Once again, you will find my research and analysis in two articles published by G. Edward Griffin in 2011.

    Snake Oil For Sale
    http://bit.ly/ConstEveryMan-SnakeOil1

    Snake Oil For Sale, Part 2
    http://bit.ly/ConstEveryMan-SnakeOil2

    Go ahead, read my article. Make a counter-argument to support the claim.

    People who promote these kinds of spurious and baseless arguments, damage everyone connected with the honest movement to get the government under control again. These people waste resources and distract people with silver-bullet theories.

    Seriously, even if this spurious claims were true, who do think will enforce it? Do you believe that any branch of the government is actually going say, 'Oops, sorry. We'll send all those attorneys back to England lickety-split.' Really?

    Rather than do something that actually has a chance in hell of working, you lead people down another rabbit hole to join you in Wonderland.

    You have my permission to repost my two articles on the Constitution Club site and widely promote them.

    TONA Research Committee - The Thirteenth Article of Amendment
    The TONA Research Committee presents the research into the Legislative history and ratification of the Article 13 Titles of Nobility and Honours amen…
    • Apparently you are not well informed... we have an authentic letter from John Quincy Adams that addresses this very thing, and proves that one would lose their U.S. Citizenship through accepting a title of nobility, however, we will review your posts and certainly give rebuttal to them....

      • Your response indicates that you didn't even read my post, let alone the articles referenced. Cognitive dissonance at work.

        If the TONA were ratified, that is certainly what it says. The specious claim that you and others make is that esquire is a title of nobility. That's what I wrote.

        If that weren't true, your whole premise of bothering about whether the TONA was ratified would be just an interesting academic exercise.

        How did your petition for writ of certiorari to the U.S. Supreme Court work out Jeff?

        • Richard...I told you I hadn't read the material... you should check into cognitive disonance, my friend... you are working to derail the truth. Like your stuff, and all the crap coming from attorneys... it is false information.  I don't think you want any truth about the defacto US and other easily provable truth that proves your premise and position wrong.  Want documents, or are you comfortable with lies and pablum from the government and attorney liars? 

          My petition to the U.S. Supreme Court???  The IRS went into default under Rule 55 of FRCP, and the court failed to follow that, so I won... and have the proof.  How's THAT for your mole world???  How about a debate live on line... for all to hear your genius? 

          You will lose terribly because you do NOT understand the Constitution or the laws we have documents to prove our position... 

          • You still didn't address what I wrote in the post. Presumably you did read that. Esquire is not a title of nobility. I'm certain that the John Quincy Adams (prominent lawyer that he was) letter did not state that esquire is a title of nobility. That's the basis of your whole premise.

            You keep claiming you have documents. Where are they? Just unsupported claims and derogatory comments. Par for the course.

            • Nice spin. Clearly, you don't read what you don't want to read. My question was about your petition for a writ of certiorari. FCRP Rule 55 applies to default judgments. The IRS ignored your petition. It was not required to respond. That's not a default. The Supreme Court denied your petition. Didn't you read the Supreme Court Rule 14?

    • Richard, you sadden me with your effort to hide the truth of our American history. Your post reflects your assumption with no factual basis. Or is this your purposeful attempt to lie to the American People?

      I HAVE been in contact with many people on the research committee and their guidance has provided direction for this privately funded project. This project is like a lost treasure hunt with one major difference. you don't have to pitch in to benefit equally from the discovery of these hidden documents. Just remember, the more you have, the more you will lose to the attorneys.

      This project will happen with the will of the People, it is too big for me fund alone. Your label of bogus is the same type of reply I have received from several attorneys guilty of criminal fraud. I think you may be an attorney too.

      The title esquire refers to a man belonging to the order of English gentry ranking next below a knight. This title provide direction for individual status registration, no more and no less.

      Your attempt to misinform readers as to intentions of my project reflect poorly on your character, integrity and honor while clearly indicating your level of ignorance shared by many people living in this country. Your ability to enjoy your ignorance is what this country was founded on. Even the ignorant have the ability to pursue life, liberty and happiness. Just because you have no desire to expose corruption doesn't mean others enjoy your position.

      Another freedom you enjoy is the ability to link your papers for others to read. Sadly, you are a poor writer relying on incorrect information. You are an energy vampire, but that is your right.

      As for the silver bullet comment, I wrote the Colorado governor requesting a meeting to criminally charge the control employees of state department of law with fraud, naming the entire department a syndicated crime ring. The charges will name approximately 200 Colorado government attorneys for starters. That demand was based on just some of the evidence I have This project was a simple request for the People's assistance to locate additional documents known to exist.

      Then your comment to send attorneys back to England is a reach. You put the cart ahead of the horse in your childish attempt to kill this document recovery project. As for your 'who would enforce newly discovered documents', that would fall on the American People. This project is to expose the documents to the People.

      You reach the childish level with the terms rabbit hole and wonderland. Do you know I have documents exposing government insurance fraud by attorneys evolving enough u.S. money to balance the national debt a dozen times over? Did you know I have this confirmed by the united States Securities and Exchange Commission through the F.O.I. document acquisition process? Did you know I demanded entry into the federal witness protection program while filing criminal reports to the S.E.C. to have this matter investigated and exposed to the People?

      There is no way you could know this because the investigation was refused by the executive board of the S.E.C. Did you know all S.E.C. chairman positions are held by B.A.R. members? The criminal investigation of insurance fraud by government employees would have exposed government corruption to the People.So you as a People remain uninformed. As the attorneys are in control of this massive amount of money and attorneys are in control of the S.E.C., do you have any idea of why there was not an investigation? Contact Vincente Martinez with the S.E.C. and ask if he has heard of me. You want facts, there you go. You post your results from him and then I will post my statement from the S.E.C. 

      You see, the government attorneys are using a holding company to accumulate government treasury funds. The local government attorneys represents this company as a recognized insurance provider but I have a document from the S.E.C. stating the holding company is not an insurance provider.

      Snake Oil? You are sadly under-educated.

      My name is Jim Porter and you have my address, why don't you identify yourself and provide your location so the People can properly identify you? You act like someone with something to hide.

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      • Exactly how is a knight's servant a noble? Does that make Paul McCartney's roadie a noble?

        Have you even looked up the words nobility or noble?

        Words have meaning.

        You clearly haven't looked at my profile where my contact information is located. On the other hand, your brand new profile (created minutes ago) contains no contact information, contrary to your claim that I have your address. You can't even be honest about something as minute as that.

        Ad hominem attacks are the refuge of those without an argument.

        • What part about Ridgway, Colorado is it that you can't find on a map?

          Your posts expose your fraud. But it is your right to point that out to others.

          Nobility; noun.....the quality of being noble in character, mind, birth or rank.

          as a group of people belonging to the noble class in a country, especial those with a hereditary or honorary title.

          Our founding fathers prohibited titles of nobility throughout all u.S. government bodies, you seem to be angry with the wrong person.

          I suspect if the callers to your help desk knew of your lack of character, they would stop calling. Or is that why you have time to post 4 times a minute during an election season? I find this discussion with you a waste of time. I look forward to the input of others.

          • TONA prohibits people with 'the quality of being noble in character' from being citizens?

            The inconvenient truth.

            http://webstersdictionary1828.com/

            3. The qualities which constitute distinction of rank in civil society, according to the customs or laws of the country; that eminence or dignity which a man derives from birth or title conferred, and which places him in an order above common men. In Great Britain, nobility is extended to five ranks, those of duke, marquis, earl, viscount and baron.

            Q.E.D.

            Websters Dictionary 1828 - American Dictionary of the English Language
            Websters Dictionary 1828 - American Dictionary of the English Language
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