The Bundy Debacle and Federal Land Grabs - The Nation's Wealth

So why natural resources you say? Because there are a butt load of them. That's why. And it doesn't stop with diamonds. This is about ALL natural resources.

Natural resources are the MAIN reason for the federal seizure of privately, state/people owned, land. Look carefully at the map and you will realize that any and all of the land west of the Mississippi was up for grabs a while ago.

The Supreme court also decided somewhere along the line that this action was completely Constitutional.

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I would like that court or any other to show me where in ANY Constitution, state, federal or otherwise it gives the PEOPLE'S permission to the FEDS to run the show.

They may be perfectly correct, that these areas do need to be preserved for future generations, as they were for me, but nowhere does it say that the states and it's people don't have first dibs on CONTROL of that land and it's resources as well as to profit from those resources. Think about it people.

How many resources are there to be had in any given area, anyway? The answer. A BUTT LOAD! And the feds want to control them.

The mining of coal, sulfur, gold. silver, diamonds, copper, tin, and exploring for gas, oil, water, dams, electricity, the mountains themselves, and what about TREES? Aren't these resources? Are these all property of the federal government? Where does it say that? What DOES our nation's rule book say about it? Let's look.

The U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 17

"The Congress shall have Power To… exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States…"

Last time I looked folks, there were resources all around me that God put here and that We The People have NATURAL RIGHT TO! That's why they're called NATURAL resources people. Because government did not create them, nor did they ordain that such shall exist. In fact, the last time I looked, It went

  1. Nature
  2. Nature's God
  3. The FREE People with free will to make mistakes and take full responsibility for them. And then and ONLY then;
  4. Governments and cities and organized societies and rules and statutes and jails, etc.

All of number 4 is subordinate to the rest. Governments do not make laws, only God and Nature do. "The Law of Necessity" is not a man made law. we were born with it, knowing it, doing it, right away, without being told that we needed to.

It's known as "The right to defend myself against harm." Still recognized today in every court in the land as the concept called the right to "Self-Defense".

If you point a gun at my head to rob me of my rights, I have the right, no the DUTY to stop you. Self defense.

That's what Robert "LaVoy" Finicum was trying to get across. It is all the Bundy family  is trying defend and it is, by their own admission the number one reason the federal government under Ulysses S. Grant on March 1st, 1872 - Grant signs legislation establishing Yellowstone as the nation's first national park.

There you go, created by statute; the "National" Park/Refuge System.

Don't misunderstand me. I LOVE these places. Have seen many of them. They are magnificent. That's not the issue. Ownership of the RESOURCES and THE LAND! That's the issue.

Right now as you read this, they are occupying those lands, with absolutely NO intention of giving them up. They claim they "belong to the world." They have even labeled them "World Heritage Sites" and put them "Legally" under the control of the Unesco and the IMF.

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IF anyone BUYS the land, it is their land.

I know very little abour...so/  If someone knows the answer let me know.

Who did they buy the land from?  Did they buy it from the U.S. Govt?  Did they receive a Title to the land?

IF the U.S. Govt. alllowed them to buy it, it IS their land vs. the Fed's land.

Ask the Indians that question Elaine. See what they will tell you.

Man!  You got that right!!!

Ownership of land is for those who hold it, stay on it, maintain it, improve it and defend it. Ownership is not meandering over it taking its natural resources and leaving when the shit gets too high. Corporations and migrating mongoloid invaders (Injuns) sound a lot alike.

I comprehend your message Robert, but the Indians were anything but marauders. They in fact, took very good care NOT to leave a mark on the land and to preserve it's natural resources for their progeny.

Morton, nowhere did I use the term marauders. However, when marauding other people's homes, livestock, crops and persons, particularly in the old west, after fire and animal and insect activity, wind and rain, whether the maraudees were other Indians or white travelers or settlers, little or no evidence was left behind. You are right. That's good environmental policy.

You didn't use the word Robert, but you seem to have made the analogy and insinuated the idea that there were many who ravaged the land and then left when "the shit gets too high."

There were bad people on all sides of the "Old West" equation. Some were native to the land, some were newcomers, but every single catastrophic event seems to have been caused or initiated by GOVERNMENT!

"Let's kill the Indians, Let's kill their food source, ALL of them", (the bison). "Let's make a law that says blacks are "inferior" beings and whites are naturally "superior"."

Balderdash! It's the federal government that was always the problem in America. Overreach is their specialty and marauding their natural approach.

There is some truth in what you say. However, what I was referencing in my first response was what entitles people to ownership. A nomadic lifestyle is not conducive, under Man's law or God's law, to ownership. Thereby, what is not owned cannot be stolen. Quit trying to make my ancestors look bad, while they were building shelter, growing and raising food, educating and generally providing a better life for all. The blood of my ancestors cries out from this land of theirs for over 400 years and wishes at least one of their progeny to speak for them. And no one need make a law, save nature, that Whites are superior in order, innovation, productivity, charity and spreading knowledge. Tribal rhythms may be tantalizing, but orchestrated music can be soothing or moving. Haranguing ( talking shit) is a natural Negro talent, but can it replace 10,000 years of written literature. Running fast is an asset and can make one wealthy. But after 200 years of running fast with a green ovoid object tucked under your arm and an angry White man directing you; you too could learn to run fast, Morton.    

Not sure of your whole meaning, but consider me a kindred spirit. I grew up in the streets of Oakland, CA in the sixties/seventies, where I was the minority. The ONLY one. I had NOBODY to protect me from the world.

As such, I learned VERY quickly to judge the other kids,

"by the content of their character and not the color of their skin." - Martin Luther King

I had no choice. EVERYONE ELSE was black or brown. I was the only honky/white boy. The ONLY ONE! My sister, one grade ahead, the ONLY white GIRL. Do you think the rest of the kids knew we were related? LOL!

Talk to you in a couple of weeks. Celebrating Trump's victory. If you Cruz, you lose. He got Trumped. But Trump was gracious in his victory. Now to see if we can keep him alive,until he can implement some of his campaign promises. Hope your sister is better looking than you. LOL.

Clinton Is Selling Uranium From Bundy and Hammond Ranches to Russians to Fund Presidential Campaign

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/01/05/clinton-is-selling-ura...

Which is an act of treason .

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