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Dear Department of Motor Vehicles Director,

I have some questions regarding the application of the “motor vehicle” codes. As your organization is the prime testing and “licensing” agency for “drivers”, I believe it is incumbent upon your agency to provide redress for any questions arising out of confusion with the statutes/codes/case law, etc. in reference to these areas.

As I cannot make future decisions based simply on MY interpretation of what I think a pamphlet or publication says and I cannot interpret law as I am not a lawyer, I require written confirmation directly from you as to the exact stance and beliefs of your office in regard to my questions and as such, a cookie-cutter response of pre-printed sales fliers will not be sufficient as a reply to my questions. I require you adhere to the administration of your duties as director of operations of your particular office, and answer my questions individually and in writing.

That is why this letter is addressed to you personally and directly. You are the leader and therefore I must assume, the highest authority on the practices, policies and official “legal” stance on ALL aspects of The DMV and the lawful relationship set up between the DMV and those who fill out and sign an application for a “driver’s license”.

As it is a right of the American people to petition their government for redress of ANY grievances and you are a government agency, I consider a response to my questions MANDATORY on your part. I will accept nothing less than full cooperation from you with THIS official request for information. I require this information in order to make legal decisions that very much will affect my future, therefore it is extremely important that I receive accurate information regarding my questions. Your response(s) will be necessary to effect future decisions on my part. That is why a pamphlet or stamped out response will not be sufficient as a proper reply.

As I understand this may be asking for a little extra effort on your part I have prepared the flowing separate page(s) to simply be filled out, copied and returned to me with answers and full U.S. Code and law references included. If the form is incomplete or blank, the answer will be considered to be null and void as a proper reply to a request for information.

I’m sure you believe that most if not all of the questions I have can probably be addressed by a flier or information pamphlet, but that would not be sufficient for the reasons previously stated in regard to my issues, hence;

My questions center around the claim by the DMV that in order to “drive” or “operate” a “motor vehicle”, or obtain a “driver’s license”, that I need a Social Security Number. If this is accurate, then the following questions arise. To whit the following;

1) Can the government require a man or woman born in America to obtain a “license” in order to move their property from place to place in the mode of the day for private purposes, who is not involved in traffic, commerce, ferrying passengers, carrying cargo or trade for profit on the roadways?

Your Answer:

Yes - ______________ or No - ______________

Code Reference - _____________________________

Statute Reference - ______________________________

Case Law Reference - _________________________________

Constitutional Reference - _________________________________

 

2) Is it mandatory in law or in the Constitution for ANYONE in America to obtain, possess, use, or produce upon demand a Social Security Number in order to obtain a “Driver’s license”?

Your Answer:

Yes - ______________ or No - ______________

Code Reference - _____________________________

Statute Reference - ______________________________

Case Law Reference - _________________________________

Constitutional Reference - _________________________________

3) Is it mandatory in law or in the Constitution for ANYONE in America to obtain, possess, use, or produce upon demand a Social Security Number?

Your Answer:

Yes - ______________ or No - ______________

Code Reference - _____________________________

Statute Reference - ______________________________

Case Law Reference - _________________________________

Constitutional Reference - _________________________________

4) Is the Department of Motor Vehicles a private, for profit corporation that is simply regulated by the government?

Your Answer:

Yes - ______________ or No - ______________

Code Reference - _____________________________

Statute Reference - ______________________________

Case Law Reference - _________________________________

Constitutional Reference - _________________________________

5) If your agency is part of the government, then what part of the government is it?

Your Answer: __________________________

Code Reference - _____________________________

Thank you in advance for your accurate answers and attention to detail in regard to my questions.

Sincerely,

 

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Hey Patricia,

found that story about Scott Anderson, but there's another story on a Steven Anderson and the Yuma Border Patrol. Quite interesting as well. Click on these links to see them.

I listened to Pastor Steven Anderson's trial

great web site.2 things we found out and would like to verify.first we were told that the only constitituional correct and  legal law enforcement in the usa is the sheriffs dept?and we have a great story,if you can googlle the name of a joe lozito a guy who was going to work on a new york subway,when a guy walks over to joe and says to him your gonna die,and pulls out a butcher knife and begins to stab joe,now joes in a fight for his life with 2 new york city policemen not 25 feet away watching this thru the conductors car little window,like i said not more then 25 ft away,anyway joe gets stabbed multiple times and takes this thug down and disarms him.and only then do the 2 policeofficers come out and say to joe we will take it from here.anyway joe sues the police in court,and do you know what the police lawyers tell joe,and i quote that the police had no special duty to protect him or any individual on the train that day.then why do we pay them,and if they don,t protect us,then what do we need them for?what we took away from this story is,the only one who is in charge of protecting you and your family is you and your family.god bless all legal american veterans/citizens

I was able to determine this, in my life, after several incidents where the police failed to respond or care; that was over 50 years ago, a lesson early learned. I hope Joe Lozito wasn't jailed, fined and incarcerated for bruising his assailants like a friend of mine was, by 3 uniformed  black soldiers. My friend was a railroad engineer whose route was from Yuma to L.A. and back. On his way home, he stopped for a gallon of milk to bring home to his family. While he was waiting in line, He was assaulted by one of our uniformed heroes. As the other 2 approached he defended himself, but was eventually overwhelmed by the 3, and down in a corner, when he remembered  he had a small knife in his pants pocket, beneath his R.R. coveralls. When he pulled it the blacks ran. HE was arrested and charged with a hate crime, etc. a 7,000 dollar fine, 10,000 dollars in legal fees and 3 months in jail. I doubt his wife and daughter had milk that night,  20 years ago.

Police better known as C.O.P. Citizens on patrol. initial name. Never was your rights included in their job. Your Sheriff was elected to help you not be damaged in any way ; they the deputies would have had to respond.

now where are we at ? well in New York city the Union told all C.O.P.'s not to perform their usual thuggery by implementing the Cities rules and regulations against the citizens. their revenue went down by 80%  Still much remained the same for police were still sent after bank robbers but not after crooks incursions with the citizens.

Now here is a really good look at the true police departments which now are controlled by home land security. Remember that in 2008 Obama told us he would have a citizen army that equaled or surpassed our military.

This would leave this one man to believe that Police C.O.P.'s are only for monetary means to collect for the elite who buy their jobs  and also perform the other part of the accumulation of funds from these servants. (We are their servants by their definition)

Good drivers license discussion Morton. Notice how all of us get so side tracked on each of these threads. I have a few comments that probably everyone knows but hasn't been mentioned in this discussion. So for those new to the subject and only reading along for the first time...

The DMV, police, townships, and courts are all for-profit corporations. When we beg for the privlege of a license, we agree to their corporate motor vehicle codes, rules, regulations and THEIR corporate arbitration hearings and jurisdiction. Other than collisions where there is a true "injured " party to make whole, all code offenses are cured by paying fines and fees to the corporations. I'd rather keep my Right to Travel without the strings attatched.

Black's Law- A license is "permission" to do something that is "illegal".

Legal and lawful are what most people don't get. Legal comes from the corporate courts. Lawful is more associated with Common Law which is in line with our individual Rights and our Constitution.

If we attempted to argue our drivers license questions inside today's courtrooms with a jury of honest people that we trust, they wouldn't get it, and we would loose. So let's take a different example for their sake.

Marriage License. We need to ask the honest jury to consider WHY do we need "permission" from anyone to be married? Is marriage illegal? In the Christian faith, we are married in a church and a paster, priest, minister performs the ceremony, but we ARE married by God. So why does the court need to get in on this activity, and make it "legal". Not long ago a marriage was "recorded" in the "Family Bible" and that was it. When and why was it changed? Today, marriage without a license is what? The marriage application in the courthouse just created a three party corporation, husband-wife--state. Makes one wonder! Know anyone who's been divorced? We'll see what "legal" is all about!

(Married by God and divorced by a judge. I think God is going to be pissed about that one!)

Any kids in that divorce? They are "profits and assets" of that three party corporation and the state OWNS THEM at the dissolving of the corporation. And this subject segways into the birth certificate issues ... Very twisted anytime we have a relationship with LEGAL or LICENSES. These are some sick individuals.

Back to drivers license. Maybe God can help us with it.

I have indeed covered all of that and more Mike. Go Here and see if you can find more on the subject of sovereignty and freedom. Happy Reading!

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