Bundy Ranchers - Harney County, Oregon

Well here we go again folks. Only this time the stakes are a sight higher, the cause and purpose is righteous and the constitutional logic undeniably sound. Not only that, but this time it's not three guys trying to arrest the governor, but instead is matter of federal land grabs and the raw difference between those who know what the Constitution says and those who don't.

Article I, Sec. 8, Cl. 7 and 17

"Congress shall have the power to...(7) establish Post offices and Post Roads...(17) and to exercise like authority overall places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards and other needful buildings..."

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  • As I understand it 25 years ago the Fed Govt controlled 243,000,000 acres of Americans land.

    Now, 25 years later, they control BLM etc. some 640,000,000 acres.

    This is destroying the citizens livelihood, ranching, farming logging, recreation etc.

    Remember  US Inc. is a CORPORATION and not a 'REPUBLIC'.

    Check it out on Dun & Bradstreet. The Act of 1871 did this.

    We were warned by Ben Franklin when he said: " You have a REPUBLIC, if you can keep it"

    Well, we , or our forefathers,  didn't. Lost it in 1871!

  • www.usavsus.info

    The above site will explain the difference between our original ' COMMON LAW'

    and the Admiralty/maritime 'CORPORATE LAW' we are now under. 

    " You don't know, what you don't know"- Albert Einstein

    USAvsUS
    The Truth as I see it--The original government and the current corporate government are not the same.
    • Correct Don!

      We currently labor under the burden of the highest taxation any "free" nation has ever seen and we are being "regulated" out of existence as fast as you can say boo. And that's just the beginning.

      If we look into the D&B angle it goes all the way back to the Bank of London, the Rothchilds and the Vatican.

      "YOU" is a government employee/property, a "citizen".

      "You" are not!

  • Anyone reading on this website gets it. Let's discuss this as we would explain it to our ignorant neighbor who thinks he doesn't have anything at stake in this subject.

    Can our neighbor agree that the federal government was created by the states and people? If so, how can the federal government own and control real estate on the behalf of the states? A few posts above, it is documented exactly the few areas where the federal government could own property. Yet they've gone way beyond their lawful job description.

    To use a simple analogy, how about thinking about an employer-employee relationship that your neighbor can more easily relate. Let's say your neighbor starts a business and hires employees. After a while the employee's lawyers inform your neighbor business owner that his employees own and control the business. A little while later, the employer finds that the locks have been changed on his building. Hmmmm, he hires and pays the employees and they steal property that they didn't have a stake in. Pretty sure that wasn't included in the employee handbook or the US Constitution. No attempts to fire the employees are effective. The business owner now tries to regain his lawfully owned business and the rogue employees use the courts and lawyers to have him arrested and fined. The business owner learns that HIS employees own the courts too. This little story makes no sense, but in America it happens all the time.

    The people and states have not been successful to protect themselves from the federal government entity that they created. The "People's" government has grown more powerful than its owners and has "progressively" morphed into a dangerous out of control monster. This is pure science fiction fantasy! Every science fiction monster movie ends with the people having to take drastic measures to destroy the monster in order to save themselves from certain death. If there is an alternate ending to this poorly written sci-fi movie, let me know. At what point do the people in this movie say, "we have had enough, it's time to do something"?

    I am trying to rationalize how good people get employed by government and somehow can't see at some point that they are taking orders from the criminals who are usurping the People and states. I think we need to ask these latest government murderers how it feels that they stalked, trapped, and murdered their neighbor. Who did they think they were protecting? Who was threatened? What was the urgency for such drastic actions? I feel that we need to allow their personal guilt be the lesson of the day. At what point can an agency tell an individual to kill for the protection of a lie? These governors, agents, sheriffs, and police need to be honest and come clean and admit that "following orders" is still murder. Ya know that slogan "to serve and protect", who was serving and what were they protecting? How do they feel about it today? Are they proud of their service? How did the Nuremberg trials end for those exclaiming they were just following orders?

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    Hey, without going too far off topic, this thought just occurred to me. Does anyone know why police wear badges, and judges and legislators have name plates on their desks? It doesn't give them authority, it's so their employers can know who they are talking to. It's for us to identify who is doing and not doing their jobs correctly. Think further. If we ask/demand a police officer his name and badge number, is he required to answer? Why? WE ARE HIS master, he is our servant. Who is paying the salary, and who is accepting it? "He who pays is the master, and he who takes is the slave"!

    We need to teach the dumbed down masses the pecking order in society. Now back to the federal oppression topic.
  • How do We fight the Crooked gov't, all they (officials) put us in prison & it continues anyway!!?
    We the People need to Gut All from Gov't in D. C. & start over. They (federal gov't ) are making valid (illegal) confiscation of properties &businesses all over the USA. How can I share this to my Facebook page? I'm NOT Afraid to get told Not to!! I have an ongoing battle with the Private company IRS that works for our Joke of a Gov't That states I owe; Yet will not show paperwork where or How. ALL ARE CROOKS/LIARS. THAT INCLUDES U 2 OBAMASS
  • The IRS is a private CORP domiciled out of Puerto Rico.
    Go check it out!
    Sheriff Depts and Police Depts are also Incorporated.
    Go check it out!
    A cop friend to me:
    " It takes a THUG to catch a THUG"

    Copper Badges the wear is where the name 'Cops' came from..(:
    • They used to call them "The Coppers" for a reason.

  • I have to set up the software interface with those entities like Facebook in order to one button that for you Greg, but have no fear, I will get to it.

    Meanwhile, I like what you said about how they make accusations, but are never required to follow any rules of procedure or actual law at all themselves in order to throw you in jail for exposing the fraud.

    Watch THIS! Tell me what you think.

  • I shared this to facebook but I didn't give you any credit for the post.  I thought you might want to remain anonymous, Morton. Thanks.  

  • We all need to get the titles to our property ; those warranty deeds they sold us aren't worth shit . We haven't elected a president , governor or senator since 1917 when as usual our congressmen sold us out... again .

    Without being land owners we have no vote ( being an elector ) ; we are nothing better than a flock of pigeons walking around pooping all over everything , making a useless flutter .

    You want your land patent , not an AR-15 ; that will only give them cause to call you names and kill you .and they can't wait to kill more Americans .

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