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It's not so much a direction as It is a stand. The "direction" is to stand-up with like minded Americans. The issue that I found important in Shay's rebellion was that there was an under current of rage....I believe that rage exists today. So, I think the Bundy rebellion is a model to forge a "direction and a stand." The reality is that people have to know they could die in their stand....much like the Cowboys at Bundy's rebellion knew. WE HAVE TO KNOW WE WILL DIE IN OUR ACTIONS AGAINST THIS TYRANNY....PERIOD.

You're too young to die...what are you, in your 50's?

I've seen quite a bit while in the medical field over 15 years.....the VA  is dangerous. Just look at the way they do things....what they did to you just shows that they are're better than you've ever been...I'm 56 by the way.

dying is for cowards.    Those who live to excel in administrations without fear and only contemplate what they can do for their bretherin are the victorious no matter what happens.

For the Creator is our foundation and he names the time and place of our expiration date.                  " Live to serve and serve to live "

They were farmers and trappers frontier men - that banded together to fight for RIGHTS and FREEDOMS SAME AS TODAY FRIENDS.

any one else want to wade in here,?  I think that there is a world  and years of difference between the people then and now.

I feel this is a worth while debate as I know sheriffs and Law enforcement  read our posts.

we are, after all, putting a finger on what is disturbing as well as reprehensible. It extends from the Banks who have taken over our monies,  the Corporations who have removed the infrastructure to have jobs of worth, and a Despotic Government which places upon all of us laws which have taken our freedoms.

This action through Fabianism  has reduced by  100's of trillions of Dollars the worth of this Republic. Now we sit at the Oligarchies door. Our hands reaching out for the welfare they provide.

I,  as a person of this republic resent all of those such as Harry Reid ( whom I called and told that he is the sickness which has been spread as they seek the welfare of the Corporations)  And others who feed from that trough.

Yes im angry and I want answers and I want to be heard in my laminations of the truth of this Despotism. And I have promised upon the alter of God that I will do whatsoever he has planned for me irregardless of the results,  for death is much superior to the life of enslavement.

And that day in March when we took up our crosses to march upon those Foreign elements named this for what it truly is  the Stand of a bereaved people who's roots are planted in the graveyards of our ancestors, and whosoever shall stand against the rights of those who need their freedoms shall be judged  by God for  their actions,  not a people who will throw off those chains for want of those freedoms. 

Now now down boy . . we are getting the Article V process taking off . . Mekler and Farris have the Convention of States going - Mark Levie has more . . Article V Project to restore liberty is educating thousand that are sending the info to thousands more.

If we can take away the money and power from DC, the lands will be restore to the States as Article I section 8 does not allow them to own land inside States except as authorized in A.I.8.17 and if it is not in here then they can not own it.

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

so be it > this jury is still out as to their results.

15a. Shays' Rebellion

Northampton courthouse
The modern day Northampton courthouse, built in 1884 on the same site as the courthouse where Shays' Rebellion occurred.

The crisis of the 1780s was most intense in the rural and relatively newly settled areas of central and western Massachusetts. Many farmers in this area suffered from high debt as they tried to start new farms. Unlike many other state legislatures in the 1780s, the Massachusetts government didn't respond to the economic crisis by passing PRO-DEBTOR LAWS (like forgiving debt and printing morePAPER MONEY). As a result local sheriffs seized many farms and some farmers who couldn't pay their debts were put in prison.

These conditions led to the first major armed rebellion in the post-Revolutionary United States. Once again, Americans resisted high taxes and unresponsive government that was far away. But this time it was Massachusetts's settlers who were angry with a republican government in Boston, rather than with the British government across the Atlantic.

The farmers in western Massachusetts organized their resistance in ways similar to the American Revolutionary struggle. They called special meetings of the people to protest conditions and agree on a coordinated protest. This led the rebels to close courts by force in the fall of 1786 and to liberate imprisoned debtors from jail. Soon events flared into a full-scale revolt when the resistors came under the leadership of DANIEL SHAYS, a former captain in the Continental Army. This was the most extreme example of what could happen in the tough times brought on by the economic crisis. Some thought of the SHAYSITES (named after their military leader) as heroes in the direct tradition of the American Revolution, while many others saw them as dangerous rebels whose actions might topple the young experiment in republican government.

Insurgents of Shays' Rebellion
Patriots or traitors? Farmers from western Massachusetts followed petitions for economic relief with insurgency in the fall of 1786. A group of protestors, led by Revolutionary War veteran Daniel Shays, began a 6 month rebellion by taking over the Court of Common Pleas in Northampton; the goal was to prevent the trial and imprisonment of debt-ridden citizens.

JAMES BOWDOIN, the governor of Massachusetts, was clearly in the latter group. He organized a military force funded by eastern merchants, to confront the rebels. This armed force crushed the movement in the winter of 1786-1787 as the Shaysites quickly fell apart when faced with a strong army organized by the state. While the rebellion disintegrated quickly, the underlying social forces that propelled such dramatic action remained. The debtors' discontent was widespread and similar actions occurred on a smaller scale in Maine (then still part of Massachusetts), Connecticut, New York, and Pennsylvania among others places.

While Governor Bowdoin had acted decisively in crushing the rebellion, the voters turned against him in the next election. This high level of discontent, popular resistance, and the election of pro-debtor governments in many states threatened the political notions of many political and social elites.SHAYS' REBELLION demonstrated the high degree of internal conflict lurking beneath the surface of post-Revolutionary life. National leaders felt compelled to act to put an end to such popular actions that took place beyond the bounds of law.

More good stuff  . . 

Here are two related PDF's concerninjg the Bundy Ranch
This one is the one that was scrubbed from the BLM site;
and this related one;

You know what Benjamin Franklin Said..."I give you a republic If you can keep it." Jefferson added to that saying a Revolution needs to happen from time to time to water the tree of Democracy.....more like a Republic as intended.


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