The Originally Proposed 13th Amendment

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Titles of Nobility and Honors Amendment

The Titles of Nobility Amendment was proposed by the 11th Congress on May 1, 1810 as an amendment to the United States Constitution. It was approved and submitted to the state legislatures of the 17 states that existed at the time. The states of Louisiana, Indiana, Mississippi and Illinois were not allowed to participate in the ratification process because they were territories at the time.

So in 1810 there were only 17 states which participated in the Congressional debates on the proposed 13th amendment.

• The Senate voted 27 to 3 in favor,
• The House voted 87 to 3 in favor of the proposed amendment.

On March 12th, 1819 Virginia officially became the 13th and final state necessary to ratify the originally proposed 13th Amendment. Thus the Amendment was ratified. At that time there were 21 states, but only 17 were eligible to vote on its ratification, so 13 of 17 was sufficient for ratification of the amendment.

  

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The Titles of Nobility Amendment prohibited individuals from receiving titles that would entitle them to special privileges and immunities. There is a debate is the title "Esquire" may not be a title of nobility, but the intent was clearly to prevent the creation of a class aristocrats in the United States. Lawyers that are members of the BAR Association are a privileged class which violates the Titles of Nobility Clause in the Constitution.

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That's exactly why I started moving in that direction by starting an action based movement called 2020 Vision for America. I have not yet created the group, but will let you know when I do. I will let everyone know. At the moment there is only a folder of about 80 articles and a Mission Statement.

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From a court case, in Horst v. Moses, 48 Ala. 123, 142 (1872), which gave the following description of "Titles of Nobility":

"to confer a title of nobility, is to nominate to an order of persons to whom privileges are granted at the expense of the rest of the people. It is not necessarily hereditary, and the objection to it arises more from the privileges supposed to be attached, than to the otherwise empty title or order. These components are forbidden separately in the terms "privilege", "honor", and "emoluments", as they are collectively in the term "title of nobility". The prohibition is not affected by any consideration paid or rendered for the grant."

GRAFT
a) The act of taking advantage of one's position to gain money, property, etc. dishonestly, as in politics; b) anything acquired by such illegal methods, as an illicit profit from government business.

HONOUR
High rank or distinction of superiority to be treated with deference or obeisance. From Webster's Dictionary, the archaic definition of "honor" (as used when the 13th Amendment was ratified) meant anyone "obtaining or having an advantage or privilege over another."

A contemporary example of an "honor" granted to only a few Americans is the privilege of being a judge: Lawyers can be judges and exercise the attendant privileges and powers; non-lawyers cannot.

By prohibiting "honors", the 13th Amendment prohibits any advantage or privilege that would grant some citizens or corporations (legal fictions having the status of Person) an unequal opportunity to achieve or exercise political power. Therefore, the second meaning (intent) of the 13th Amendment was to ensure political equality among all American citizens, by prohibiting anyone, even government officials, from claiming or exercising a special privilege or power (an "honor") over other citizens.

Therefore, "honor" is a key concept in the 13th Amendment. While "titles of nobility" may no longer apply in today's political system, the concept of "honor" remains relevant. For example, anyone who had a specific "immunity" from lawsuits which were not afforded to all citizens, would be enjoying a separate privilege, an "honor". Think of the "immunities" from lawsuits that our judges, lawyers, politicians, and bureaucrats currently enjoy. As another example, think of all the "special interest" legislation our government passes: "special interests" are simply euphemisms for "special privileges," i.e., honors.